“Convert them, or kill them”


“I’m not giving up on them, but I’m just saying, either convert them or kill them. One or the other.” – Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty.

Ouch. That’s pretty harsh coming from someone who professes to be a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ. I have to be honest. I never did get into the Duck Dynasty hype. I tried watching the show twice, and couldn’t make it through more than ten minutes. For me, it was the typical, silly, scripted, ridiculous reality TV mess that millions of people around the globe live for. I’m not saying it’s wrong to watch reality TV. That is just my own personal opinion on the genre.

From what I hear, at the end of every episode, the entire family sits around the dinner table, and they give thanks for the food. They pray. I have no idea if they talk about the Gospel, Jesus, or salvation at any point during each show. I hope they do since they have such a huge following.

As with everything else I hear from well known people these days, I would much rather stick to the words penned in red that I find in my Bible. Matthew 5 says:

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

Most of this chapter in Matthew is you have heard it said, but I say examples. I mentioned before that Jesus was comparing the old way of thinking, man’s way, with God’s way. The Bible talks about renewing our minds. This latest statement from the Duck Commander is why. “Convert them or kill them” is total human reasoning. It’s the way that seems right to a man. To say that it’s near impossible for someone to convert and decide to follow Jesus, is to put a limit on what God can do.

This got me thinking a lot about Matthew 5. Why do we lock our doors? Why do we have guns for protection? It’s all about self-preservation. Here’s something Jesus also said in Matthew 16:

25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.

We were born into sin. The self mindset was already embedded into our DNA. If we don’t become born again, and allow ourselves to be re-coded, we will always have our self interest at heart.

That completely goes against everything Jesus taught and modeled for us. We have to die to something we were never created to be.

This is something most people don’t like to talk about. It means giving up, well, everything. Giving it all to Him. Crawling up onto that altar and becoming a living sacrifice. It’s not something we hear a lot in church on Sunday mornings. But, it’s the Gospel.

“Worship is for us, not God.” “Convert them or kill them.” It’s frightening how many people don’t see the lies in these statements. There is no truth whatsoever. And these are words from very popular “Christians” in our society. Being a celebrity and quoting scripture doesn’t make you a Christian. It doesn’t make you right. Satan quoted scripture.

I encourage you to open your Bibles and read. Study the life of Christ and ask yourself if you’re following in His footsteps. We’re on this earth to manifest God’s image. The image He created us in.

If Jesus wouldn’t say or do something, then why would we?

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39 thoughts on ““Convert them, or kill them”

  1. Dying to self is never going to be a popular idea especially in this age of materialism. But it’s only through letting go of everything we are that are, that we can let God make us into what we should be. Great post Chris.

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  2. Spot on. The Robertson family’s darling status among American Christians borders on idolatrous at times. These people can do no wrong, in spite of the way they constantly bicker and shirk their work on their show (which I agree seems highly scripted), preach baptism as a requirement for salvation, and make ridiculous statements that unnecessarily offend lost people. Truth and accountability go out the window once a “fellow Christian” gains a place on the all-important stage of worldly entertainment.

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  3. Blessed indeed are they who seek to understand before opening their mouths and blathering. Beware those who sound off while failing to live by what they claim to be the basic values; those by which we must all be judged.

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  4. This is all so silly. I’m going to get straight to the point. In the bible David fights Goliath because he’s threatening to take over the Israelites and he talked bad about our God in heaven. David stood up to him. Hit a rock to his head knocking him out then with Goliaths sword he cut off his head and defeated him. Saving alot of ppl and honoring God. Now you tell me. If Phil Robertson so clearly stated that he’d much rather have a bible study and direct isis to Jesus Christ then to fight them. Why do you think you can say he’s saying or thinking anything wrong? If it came down to isis killing innocent ppl do you think it would be wrong to defend the ppl? David defended God and the ppl. So tell me how is that so wrong? You honestly are just speaking bad against Phil Robertson. Convert or kill. I agree! First try to save them. Don’t kill them if they decide not to convert. Kill only in self defense! Don’t take everything out of context! Jeez. Its so sad, this man of God says everything clear as day making his intention crystal clear and still some ppl have nothing better to do then twist what ppl say. Get your facts straight before you write out anything.

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        1. I appreciate everyone’s comments, but I’m not here to argue, debate, or convince anyone of anything. That’s the whole problem within Christianity today. I’m done debating. My relationship with God is settled in my heart and conscience. We are all the stewards of our own hearts. I will love you, and bless you, but I won’t argue. 🙂

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    1. To be fair, Phil also said that Muslims don’t believe in Jesus (PBUH) and that’s why they’re so messed up, but Phil was incorrect as Muslims do believe in Jesus (PBUH) as a prophet of God. Even more so we respect him and try to live as he did, just like we try to do the same with prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

      Phil does not have some of his facts straight himself.

      Let’s not spread more aggression, but seek to understand. It seems as if the author of this post is promoting peace and understanding, so regardless of interpretation his message should be applauded.

      I think we all could use a bit more peace and acceptance, yeah?

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  5. Phil speaks what a lot of Christians are thinking every time there is an advance in society from the gay community.

    In response to Phil’s comment: They’re (homosexual) already “dead” in that harmful lifestyle it’s only a matter of time before it’s manifested….
    Wether the gay community likes it or not Jesus loves them and that truth remains forever. Choose life!!!

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  6. I could read the Bible… OR, I could side with the Duck Dynasty guy and attempt to covert people to Christianity using a Nicolas Cage movie. Thousand year old literary classic and respected canon or the star of Drive Angry 3D? You decide, America.

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  7. I have never watched the show, although I know about them. I don’t watch much television.
    You give food for thought and the right answer to read our bibles to seek the answers to this troubling world we live in. I keep thinking, we have to fight to keep Christianity alive and well in this world forgetting that it is not up to me or anyone else to handle this situation, it is up to God in His time. It is difficult to not want to defend and fight for our way of life – again forgetting that power rests in God. Believe me – my first thought is that we have to stop these people before they wipe us all off the face of the earth…forgetting earth is not my eternal home and that they can never kill my soul. I have to remember that in Gods time He will send His Son to call us home and God will ultimately set things right and crush the evil that are these terrorists. It is not up to me – it is up to God.

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  8. Wow force Muslims to be Christians either convert them or kill them that’s not how God does things we all have a choice it is the wooing of the Holy Spirit that draws individuals this is the spirit of the devil talking. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Rev 13:15 . Phil Robertson is twisting the gospel. God’s word says But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? Matthew 5:44-46

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  9. Before you condemn a man for his views make sure you have the whole story don’t just take a few words out of context and spew hate. In reality several religions have been guilty of just this. When the Spanish came to South America those that wouldn’t convert to Christianity were slaughtered. There have been so many deaths as a result of “religion” quite frankly it is sickening. And the down right hatred of those that don’t believe the same as you disgusting. We are all human we all have feelings we all have free will and the choice to believe what we want what does it matter what someone else believes?

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    1. Thank you for stopping by. I don’t feel this was spewing hate at all. And I did watch the entire interview before writing my thoughts. And I do agree with you about religion. That’s why I don’t like it either.

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  10. You should site your quotes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joYbJ7pS9rc
    Let me say this before I begin: I’ve never seen Duck Dynasty either. I’m not a hater or a fan. But I do think that Phil was dead on. Keep in mind, he was being interviewed in a two-fold manner- his faith standpoint, and his political answers. The two are very different and do not mesh well together.
    His statements were specifically in regards to ISIS and the Islamic hate crimes that have been happening against anyone who does not share their same religious or moral views. The religion of Islam says quite pointedly to “Convert them or Kill Them”.
    Phil Robertson was very specific when Hanity asked him for clarification. Hanity said that this would be a target for haters wanting to discredit him and asked him if he thought that may have been a bit harsh. Phil said (I’m paraphrasing all of this) that his views were FIRST AND FOREMOST TO CONVERT. Secondly, he said that all these people are out for right now is blood and that we cannot sit on our hands and let evil things happen to good people. If they are going to come at us with guns, we shouldn’t be bystanders and watch it happen. I see no fault in his words when listening to the entire interview.
    From a political standpoint, I think that since our nation helped to create ISIS, we have a responsibility to end it before it kills us and whatever freedoms we have remaining.
    And, if we take a non-self-preservations policy as a nation, it would take a very short amount of time for someone who does have a self-preservation view to take over and change us into something we would no longer be able to recognize.

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      1. The difference is simple. It may seem subtle or insignificant, but its a very important distinction: He is talking about defense not offense.
        Isaiah 1:17,”Learn to do what is good. Seek justice. Correct the oppressor….”
        We are called out to defend our faith and to “seek justice” where applicable. That doesn’t mean we should go looking for a fight, it means that when (not if, we are in the end times) the fight comes, we should pray for God to walk with us into battle. He will be there in a fight such as this because we are defending the ultimate cause: His Name. We are called to defend those who can’t defend themselves. That is charity. Men, women, and children all over the world are dying for His Name’s sake and I believe the Bible calls us out to defend His Name.

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        1. Well if we are truly taking a defensive stance, then to simply stop ISIS would be what is required to defend those whom ISIS is harming. Do they need to be killed in order for the US to stop their actions? Do they need to be converted in order for the US to stop their actions? Perhaps if people of different faiths all over the world could learn to live peacefully alongside each other, we wouldn’t have these conflicts in the first place.

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          1. I think you’re right. It’s too bad that this isn’t possible. ISIS is out only to destroy. In a way, you could say that we are all living together and tolerating one another – I mean, our government did plan and fund them from the get go, but I don’t think that is a very peaceful unity either. If you think about it, we cannot serve two masters. They’ve already chosen which master they want to serve and which they despise. I wish there were an avenue for peaceful resolve, but that is not at all what ISIS is looking for. It is because of their own choices, actions, and convictions that they should be “converted or killed”. It would be ideal for all the religions to get along, but that would mean that the murder of one religion would not be allowed or tolerated in another. This religion wants nothing more for Christians. All we as citizens can do (until it starts within our own borders) is pray for those who are deceived so much that they wish lethal harm on others who think differently than they do. Our military has a different (not greater mind you) responsibility.

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            1. Well, in that case, it is a matter of state. The problem with “convert them or kill them” is I don’t believe “convert them” has anything to do with it. They’re not a radical, militant group because they are Muslim, they are radical criminals who use Islam as an excuse for their actions. And it is their actions that they are being punished for, not their religion. I don’t think, for US, it is a matter of religion at all. It is a matter of ISIS needing to be stopped because of their actions. And their actions may stem from their beliefs, but that doesn’t mean they represent true Muslim beliefs.

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              1. The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. I would say that makes their actions from true Muslim beliefs.
                I agree with you that it is a matter of state, but when they are acting in accordance to their religious beliefs, the water gets muddled. The fact is that the US is supposed to defend religious freedoms. When you have terrorists we put in power, killing the “unbelievers” (including those from our own country like the journalists), I think it is our role to take responsibility and clean up the mess we made.
                On the subject of converting them, I don’t think he was wrong to add convert them. Obviously, he isn’t an authority on the matter. He is a Soldier for God just like you or I, not a US officer. As a Christian (and he was being asked from a Christian perspective), I think it would be selfish and wrong to not think of converting them first. I’m not sure if he meant that the soldiers should try and convert them or not, if so, that portion was wrong. However, I think that overall he had the right values and intentions at heart.

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  11. Robertson is calling for the death of men, women, and children who refuse to accept Jesus. Who would defend this man with, “there’s a lot more to it than that one line”, or “if the Robertson’s reach the hunters of the world then this is a good thing”? This is what ISIS does! They justify their murders with references to their holy book, or with the word of some guy with a beard and a funny hat (sound familiar)! I’m not saying these people don’t need to be stopped, they do, but the matter at hand here is that Robertson is a peddler, a seller of death, a man who wants to interpret the Bible for you. Can you not read? It’s all there in the Bible, isn’t it? Is there another source for God’s word I’m unaware of? Do you really need a translator? Should you trust someone who declares he knows God’s word better than you? As Robertson himself said “I’d much rather have a Bible study with all of them and show them the error of their ways” He’ll be happy to interpret the Bible for you.How kind..
    Anyway, listen to him or not, do as you see fit, but, if you, as a Christian, or a Muslim, think that ‘convert or kill’ is the way to go then fine, but please, leave the rest of us out of it.

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  12. I never got into Duck Dynasty either–tho I have heard their testimony—but I do wonder what if—those that had been called to be missionary’s to the middle east had went in years past–that great “army” of Christian school graduates(perhaps) had heeded God’s call and put their all on the altar as you have said—if things might be different in the middle east now. What if these “evil” men had heard the gospel and gotten saved—what a difference it would have made in their lives in the lives of others who have suffered at their hands. We have a missionary who is of middle eastern descent, who has, since the fall of Saddam Hussein, established churches in Iraq. The Muslim people are hungry for the gospel and many have been converted in these last dozen years or so. This is truly the only way to end mankind’s atrocities to one another.

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  13. Following this logic no using police, or prosecuting people who commit criminal acts. So it’s only OK for first worlders to have order and create protection? Children and women, and innocent men shouldn’t ask for aid because they need to turn the other cheek? We shouldn’t help them from our comfy couches because we are like “Jesus”? This all makes me ill to imagine that’s what’s supposedly the “right” thing to think. If the Bible doesn’t talk about standing for the innocent and good I don’t know what planet I woke up on this morning. These “turn the other cheek” posts gross me out. When good men do nothing… when good men do more than nothing but post how others should also do nothing. Ick

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  14. Yes, forget the show. They know themselves that it’s hype and nothing that will last. Phil Robertson has said that.
    But do listen to their interviews on YouTube. Then you get a look at who they really are, the message they’re spreading, and how God has changed their lives. They’re talking about living Jesus’ way all the time.

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  15. I wish I could believe Robertson meant if the US must, to go to war against ISIS to defend our own country and the innocent children in it.

    As for me, I am appalled by what ISIS is doing, but to murder them in my mind and thought life would be sin, in my opinion.

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  16. Chris- I am a fan of most of your writing. However, I feel you need to research the Robertson family, and see who and what they stand for. If someone watches their show and then purchase any of their books they will see how God has changed their life. They will read about Jesus. They are also doing God’s work. I always strive to never take someone’s comment out of context and most of all anything from the Bible out of context. The Bible tells us to turn the other cheek. If you are killed you have no time to turn. God does not tell someone to not defend themselves if they have the means. He tells us to take Him with us into battle when we must do battle. Many places in the bible talk about how God helped those who believed in Him defeat those who did not. Someone directed by God told them to go into battle and it was not a battle of words. God works in many ways, through many people and if the Robertson’s reach the hunters of the world then this is a good thing.

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  17. True. I must admit though, that when I saw that statement from Phil Robertson, it made me think about how if we don’t share the gospel with people, we are pretty much killing them. At least for eternity.

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